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I love London!!
...check out wot's on offer 2moro night!!
See info below I received in an email
Pikilipita and I will be there...representing...we been there before and dig it!
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We only just finished the setup, the second time that the Green Hippos have ever set this up and you are the lucky ones to see this: HD streaming with live motion tracking!! You will be VJing in HD with your body! Looks like the future of education, dance, performance and art to me – its wicked! Tomorrow, Wed. 24th: Hippotizer and Live Motion Tracking from 4-6!

Musion and Filming from 6-8. Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow! Especially the VJs among you!

Oliver Gingrich

Musion Academy - Academic Projects



MUSIONŽ

Tel: 0207 636 9200

Fax: 0207 631 3522

m: +44 (0) 7533776118

e-mail: oliver.gingrich@musion.co.uk

website: www.musion.co.uk

blog: www.musioneyeliner.blogspot.com
there where?

no info on venue.
They have a theater set up at there offices
You gonna come Gary?


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Musion Systems Ltd.
Westcott House
35 Portland Place
London
United Kingdom
W1B 1QF
Office: +44 (0) 207 636 9200
Fax: +44 (0) 207 631 3522


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Was great...system worked well...very Minority Reports esk! Planning now to create a performance with a dancer interacting & distorting his own video image...
In what sense is it 3-dimensional and/or holographic? Is it only that the image appears to be "floating in space"?

My supposition is that if the image source is 2-dimensional (HD video) then the projected image will also only be 2d, whereas a Peppers Ghost arrangement will "properly" reflect a 3d scene such as a real-life actor or other physical object (in that the observer can change their viewpoint and otherwise gets a stereoscopic view, supposing they have two eyes...).

-spxl
Your supposition is right, there is no real 3d element in it but it is designed to be viewed only from the audience side. The illusion is pretty good though, specially when combined with real people on the stage.
My query, of course, somewhat ignored the intended (or what I imagine to be the intended) effect of someone controlling a floating screen/image in front of them (between them and the audience).

Is the floating image visible from both sides, or only the audience side?
The image is only viewable from the audience side but you can see a smaller version from the stage which is invisible to the audience. You also have screens on the sides of the stage outside of the audience view to position yourself.
Hey guys

I think most of your questions are explained on the home page at http://www.musion.co.uk/

They do state it's a virtual holographic

I think the company name is does not rhyme with illusion by accident
ah virtual as in not...
maybe its virtual as in...reality?!
speaking of 3d, has anyone got access to two projector / polarized glasses setup?

I have few minutes of 3d footage shot today in camden and I would like to watch it on different setups and share experience.

And the only viewing setup I have is left-right liquid crystal blaniking thing which is not so great (it flickers too much).

unfortunately I couldn't make it to the Hippotizer / Musion expo.
checkout Coraline 3D in cinema - it's really well done, especially that it's stop-motion animation, not the 3d-virtual thing.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0327597/
I have few minutes of 3d footage shot today in camden

What was the method of this 3d shooting, pray tell?
lens adapter with a set of mirrors and a pair of vsync synchronised liquid crystals. not a very proffesional setup but I quite like the result, and I would like to see if it's worth using that thing or not.
I've got a pair of glasses with blinking liquid crystals too, but it's just a bit painful for your eyes to watch it that way
Sounds complicated and fiddly. How do you synch the LC's with the camera frames? I'm supposing the idea is to take alternating frames for left eye / right eye. Maybe it is nicer to shoot at normal frame rate with half the horizontal resolution for each "eye" (split the full frame in half). If you shoot HD, that's still going to be better than SD.

I've had an idea for ages stick mirrors or something in front of a (4:3) camera to shoot simultaneous wide (actually "short", as in not tall) views out opposite sides of a train, with the camera pointing upwards, but otherwise oriented towards, say, the left of the carriage. The view out the left would occupy the lower half of the frame, correctly oriented, and the top of the frame would be the view out the right of the carriage, inverted. I should try this some time.

-spxl
How do you synch the LC's with the camera frames? I'm supposing the idea is to take alternating frames for left eye / right eye. Maybe it is nicer to shoot at normal frame rate with half the horizontal resolution for each "eye" (split the full frame in half).


The 'thing' I film through has a video input so it reads sync info from camera's composite out. Filming split frame is not a bad solution either I guess.

It is fiddly, but the trickiest part is to get both angles and distances between two views right (distance is fixed in the system I own), - it's very easy to end up with images looking in a funny brain-frying way, and much harder to have a 'watchable' 3d effect going on.
check this 720p 3D projector for under Ł600!!

Optoma has been demonstrating at CEDIA in London its latest achievement, a 3D projector that it expects to bring to market by the start of 2010.

http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/uan/3053